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 Euphonia Nostalgiforum 

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K-man 2004-11-02 20:57

November… has the snow come still? Vinterhjulen on? … perhaps clean of begun plan Christmas presents…?

This month will we extend vyerna over Euphoniaklassiker winger registers a stage! The is discussed of course with even intervals the last engineers as regards productions, the musical mediums, CD, SACD, DVD-A, DSD and all what the now is called… also on this areas exists the of course klassiker! Euphonia consists off hugely proficient members, sows this comes doubtless to become instructive and kul, for now acts the actually about våran hobby's early years! Alone has I not so a lot of old know-how about this, but the has t.ex everyone's våran Eliot, sows he comes to invite us on a glorious travel through old production technologies! icon_smile_tongue.gif icon_smile_tongue.gif

We begin our November thread with Thomas Edisons invention… hmmm… Edison… the year each 1877 and fonografen was given birth to! The did not dwell however long before the was visible in Sweden. Already the year after the lance ring so stem was shown this home off engineer A O Leffler. Hmmm, can the have some link to Lefflers?

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This first version of fonografen grave row on stanniolfolie and was run entirely manually, sows the applied to beonthepointof even rate the cranks the wide production, and since ensuring to hold same rate at uppspelningen.icon_smile.gif


icon_smile.gif The had been fun to last with, the experience must have been fantastic, approximately as the first photo or the movable film.


Interesting K-man.

For reached years since found I a Japanese site that sells a hobby-edison-fonograf… (unfortunately is sajten on Japanese.)

For the as is hugad sees the out as below.

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3,675 Yen.

The has also an a hemma-berliner-fonograf as graverar and plays on CD-SKIVOR.

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4,095 Yen…

The pictures show the technology behind quite good. (unfortunately becomes the pictures cut when I lodge the so you sheep to go to sjaten and to check, ie. clicks the pictures.)



When man reads K-mans introduction so can one few occupying rycka that you can to expect your Eyewitness scratch town - or will I say Earwitness scratch town icon_smile_wink.gif icon_smile_big.gif

My very first record changed I me to against stamps and the each a single with in want to hold your hand of The Beatles and the first LP ' n that I got where Seargent Pepper. I had alone no grammofon without the played few records I had on my parents' Garrard - a skivväxlare as also played stone cookies. 1967 might I a corporal punishment treadmill players as man can say where a simpler version of Tandbergbandspelaren that at that time was used in the schools.

I farmed to play in ten in Top on the Saturdays and the first productions did I through placing the microphone before the radio icon_smile_blush.gif
- I do not understand that my travels as each physics teacher did not know gooder, but after a while detected we that the existed banana contacts batch on the radio (a Radiola!) so we could connect to DIN-ingången on treadmill playing clean. I remember that I thought that the each occult icon_smile_big.gif

I will try to describe the production technology's history until approximately this time, dvs to in the end on 60-talet.
- welcome with on a travel in the past icon_smile.gif



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The very the first experiments to store sounds used purely mechanical means for storage and reproduktion. The sound was aligned in a big horn, that in its narrow bottom where the formal association with a grave era stylus. The first practical machine was invented 1877 of Thomas's Alva Edison (1847-1931). Edisons “fonograf” used metal cylinder with stanniolfolie as sound wearers and had a meagre use in addition to demonstrating sound production and sound depiction.

Edison demonstrated your new invention at Scientific American in New york and in the edition December 22, 1877, stands the to read:


Mr. Thomas A. Edison recently came occupying H ice office, placed a little machine on our desk, trip down a crank, wild duck the machine inquired carcasses to our having alder H, ash curse how we equal curse the phonograph, informed us that it was very well, wild duck bid us a cordial good night.

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The interest each big and the news disseminated itself from New york to other towns. Edison Speaking Phonograph Company were established already in January 1878 and Edison might $10,000 for production's - and the sale rights and moreover 20% of the profit. The machine had the news's satisfactions and where an immediate success. The each however difficult to deal with and stanniolfolien was toiled out after some few uppspelningar. icon_smile_blackeye.gif

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Edison fonograf from 1877

After a while the slimmed-down interest and Edison did not work further on fonografen without concentrated entirely on inventing the light bulb. icon_smile_tongue.gif

The existed however other that gave itself on improving the sound that lets “metallic” and the durability that of course only held a few uppspelningar. Stanniolfolien each moreover difficult to once more puton and to play the foil since the once been taken of fonografen.

1885 presented Chichester Bell and Charles Sumner Tainter a device as the called grafofon. The had replaced stanniolen against wax cylinders and those drives the reel's rotation with the aid of a symaskinstrampa so that the speed willed last same wide uppspelningen as the wide production.
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Bell-Tainter grafofon from 1885

At this time had Edison succeeded with your stem kit to produce a light bulb and he had now time to give himself in throws with improving fonografen.
His improvements followed in many respect grafofonen and he used now also wax cylinders. He called his device: the New Phonograph.

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Edison Phonograph Company were formed in October, 1887, in order to market pursue Edisons mechanical. He introduced the Improved Phonograph in May 1888 and shortly then the Perfected Phonograph. icon_smile_big.gif


The development does not stand still and the exists a Swedish guy Christer Hamp that has a sajt: The Phonograph Makers ' Pages where he describes differently modern devices that scan wax reels. There exists bl.a this interesting optic readers that are developed on the technical college in Lausanne, Switzerland.

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. the Poliak player, an optomechanical universal player traveled discs wild duck cylinder's alike,
working with lita rally any turntable, wild duck using LASER light.


Has somewhere weakly in the back of the head that an of the first productions where
Mary had a little lamb


My memory each probably fairly so good despite all.
Take now and follows the link and to listen since


1888 succeeded the millionaire Jessie Lippincott to reconcile the competitors Thomas Edison and Bell/Tainter and formed North American Phonograph Company. This had as objective to market to pursue fonografer and grafofoner. The company worked according to franchise the principle and provided equipment mm to 30 local dealers over the whole USA. Since Thomas Edison thought at carried out focus willed last on business activity and then in front poem ring instead of performance so got the company that direction. This did not hit well out and the company went in konkurs already 1894. icon_smile_blackeye.gif

A dealer that the went good for each District of Columbia Phonograph Company that were leaded of Edward Easton that had an entire other attitude and realized the potential of fonografen as a performance medium. icon_smile_approve.gif

When North American Phonograph Company disappeared to sow formed Bell and Tainter along with Edward Easton ' s a company as the called Columbia Graphophone Company in order to market to pursue their grafofon as a musical device. This company became latter Columbia Records that we will make acquaintance with latter in this thread. icon_smile_tongue.gif

In a first feature, Columbia presented Graphophone Company already 1895 the first cheap spring commissioned the machine as could to play wax cylinders. So far all machines had been complicated with batteries and a lot of costly. icon_smile_approve.gif

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Thomas Edison each meanwhile entirely recorded with trying to take back all rights to your uppfinnigar and 1896 based he National Phonograph Company in order to produce fonografer for home performance - but he each still involved in several legal conflicts and might bl.a not sell fonografer in USA for a period on three years. Meanwhile, Columbia could grow itself strong and Thomas Edison decided itself in order to in the future to deal with fonografverksamheten alone. Edison Home Phonograph that we saw on the picture above is from 1896 and here sees we a mock-up from 1899.

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The question is about the each a so comfortable time icon_smile_wink.gif icon_smile_cool.gif


“such a willed I will have”
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How saw the out in Sweden then icon_smile_question.gif

At the end of 1889 came fonografen with wax cylinders to Sweden and Edisons general agent pursues Skandinavien, the Dane Ruben, traveled through the country in order to stem sensible that the new former invention. Fonograferna each in beginning a lot of costly - approximately 700 sek 1889 then the income for an agriculture worker there 142 sek/years - which done that the did not go to sell many devices. icon_smile_blackeye.gif

The big uppsvinget came during the years 1896-1897 when the spring commissioned the machines turned up in Sweden. Concurrent had the come a type's standardisation (knows we again us icon_smile_big.gif ) as done that the existed interchangeable cylinders between the two trademarks Fonograf and Grafofon. Some the lasted years in on 1900-talet, until the that grammofonen took over the market. icon_smile.gif


If you have possibility when you are in southeastern skåne thinks I that you will try to take your to Frasses musical museum in Simrishamn

Hundraårigt sounds
Down in a cellar to an illusion in Simrishamn exists an odd museum. There exists mass sensible with speldosor and fonografer from a passed time and most of it functions still.
Only Edisonmuseet in N J has a bigger concentration fonografrullar than the family Fransson, that also has become uppmärksammede in British and American television.
At an uppspelning of a Swede sångare from 1898 (the black funnel on the picture) could one establish that the sound actual where a lot of good.

Frasses Musikmuseum, tel. 0414-145 20 Peder Mörcks road 5. Open 1/6 -31/8 sön 14-17. July mån-ons 14-17.
Other time after ök.


Fantastic with initiatives type Frasses musical museum. Driving spirits are needed!
Which history outing the becomes of this thread… icon_smile_shock.gif icon_smile_tongue.gif



Fonografen was not developed actually in order to play in musical without Thomas's Alva Edison was justified of a problem that Western union Telegraph Company had. The telephone each exactly invented 1876 off Alexander Graham Bell and could transfer information a lot of quicker even the telegraph. At this time, one could however only small short stretches so the telegraph was used for all longer distances. icon_smile_blush.gif

The each not financially excusable to dial in a deliberation to the telegraph and to speak so slowly that some could type down the so that man could to transfer the message. Edison searched therefore after a method to play in a message that since could play up with lower speed.

1877 worked Edison on a machine as could to transfer tel. graphical messages through reading markings on a paper strip. On this way, one could transfer an and same message several aisles. Edison began now to speculate on if one willed not can “plays in” a telephone message on same sets. He experimented with a diaphragm that had an utskjutande point and that were held against a paraffinpapper as concerned itself fast. The number's vibrationer created cavities in the paper. Edison changed since the paper against a metal cylinder dressed with a thin stanniolfolie. The machine had two diaphragms/stylus units, a for production and a for uppspelning. When a person spoke in a mouth paragraph so was transfered ljudvibrationerna to the diaphragm and thereby the stylus as created cavities in the track through the stylus's businesses up and down (“mountains and valleys”).

Edison tested the first machine through speaking in the child chant “Mary had a little lamb” - to his surprise so the played machine up the he said. icon_smile_tongue.gif
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Then, I willed wanted to last with icon_smile_wink.gif icon_smile_shock.gif


icon_smile_tongue.gif Frasses musical museum in Simrishamn wants to I enough very gladly to visit.


“Frasses musical museum in Simrishamn wants to I enough very gladly to visit. ”
Does the bravo the is an experience permanent the is long since I where there alone.
Will be compensated round Christma hopefully icon_smile_tongue.gif


Glorious, glorious eliot!!

\ \ K-man


This was a genial thread, comes to intend on that I have a part stone cookies but unfortunately no grammofon to play the on.



With that fonografer became increasingly utbredda so came the requirements on a standardisation and in the end on 1880-talet agreed Edison Records, Columbia Phonograph and other companies that used wax cylinders on c: a 10cm length, 5cm diameter.
With a production speed on 120 varv per minute could one only play in 2 minutes on these wax cylinders. icon_smile_blackeye.gif

In order to not destroy the tracks so existed the rules how one willed hold the cylinders that consisted of soft wax outside. icon_smile_big.gif

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A the coped with ten uppspelningar and one could then take with itself the wax cylinder back to the business and then might one little money back at purchase of a new. icon_smile_approve.gif

Apart from the the short playing time that naturally limited what man could to play in so existed the no way that mass producing cylinders without the artist might entirely simpley repeat the conveying often. Which of course each both time-consuming and costly. icon_smile_shock.gif

Each cylinder each a masts if we will use modern language custom from the production of vinyl and CD. In beginning on 1901 had one succeeded to develop a technology to press the cylinders from an original. In order to achieve this and in order to increase the durability so used man harder wax. The process was called Gold Moulded since gold steam was used the wide process. The original vaxmastern each both bigger and had bigger tracks and each of course done with those days' definitely goodest technology. The actual process is fairly complicated but this leaded to that one from a founding mould could to found 120 to 150 cylinders about the day. The records had 100 tracks per inch which corresponded 2 minutes' playing time. Forward until now had the man tailored speed between 90-144 varv per minute in order to few place with an entire paragraph on the record. 1902 became the speed standardized to 160 varv per minute.

Here, we see a wax reel folder from 1903
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and the wax reels came in father tubes
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Two Edison wax cylinders and in their father containers.

Pappbehållarna that had caps on both sides helped to protecting the productions.
- these containers and the mould on the cylinders gave origins to the expression Canned music. icon_smile_big.gif

The big international producers each Edison, Columbia and French Pathè
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Here, we see a Columbia Graphophon from 1904 with wax reels
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1906 began a new company - with the stimulating to the imagination name ( icon_smile_big.gif) - Indestructible Record Company mass to produce musical cylinders done of celluloid, an early hard plastic, that did not go to piece about man happened to release the and that could play thousand's aisles without being toiled out. These hard cylinders could one not alone play in on as with the wax cylinders but held on the other hand basically sets eternally and to be considered to last the” konserver” that holds longest without wear about man compares with vinylskivor and tonne tied. This överlägsna technology was bought up of Columbia Phonograph Company that dumped the remainder of your pressed wax cylinders on Edisons hemmamarknad via the Sears Roebuck mail order folder. icon_smile_shock.gif

The each however Edison alone as eaten this precarious situation then you got a patent for celluloid musical cylinders 1902. Instead in order to begin to produce such so invested he on eliminating the competitors. He went therefore to court against a man as been called Lambert that already years 1900 had started a company in order to produce celluloid cylinders and asserted that denne done trespasses on Edisons patents. Edison lost but broken Lambert.
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Edisons companies developed an own type of cylinder comprizing a type's plastic called Amberol but the did not hold that quality as Columbia's equivalence. At approximately same time introduced also Edison 4 minutes' cylinders. The double time achieved he through increasing the track density to 200 tracks per inch. Since the tracks were more frequent needed special adapters in order to konvertera the old fonografen so that that could to play the new cylinders. icon_smile_shy.gif

We see here Edison Home Model D that was produced of Edisons National Phonograph co 1908 to 1911 and costed then $40.

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This version had a s.k. “reproducer” that did that that could to play up both 2 and 4 minutes' reels.

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Man could also few Edison Home Model D with little more colourful horns

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1912 introduced Edison an improved cylinder done of some as he called Blue Amberol. About I the understood court so comprized this material celulloid plastics with a core of plaster similar material. These cylinders constitute peaken on fonograf cylinder the technology. icon_smile_tongue.gif

Same year submitted Columbia the cylinder technology in order to concentrate on grammofonen. The time before the first world war emulated these both formats each other about the audience's favour. Ljudkvalitén in a sound track is not tvunget better about the is ingraverat on a record or on a cylinder and the was other factors as the fälla settlement.

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icon_smile.gif The is of course actually easy to forget away historien and the background in pursuit on all news and “fantastic” improvements. A återblick can enough give possibility to consciousness and balance.


Agreewith entirely icon_smile.gif
- a tillbakablick gives perspectives on the life icon_smile_wink.gif

I have picked information from many different places but I have wanted to avoid the Swedish tripod for then becomes one so easily to affected and the is easy that one then takes information across of since one does not find a better ways to express itself on. icon_smile_wink.gif

The exists however a Swede sajt that I hot recommends:

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Click on the picture so comes you to Swedish Fonografinspelningar

… and then the special technology part and history curse smooth icon_smile_tongue.gif



Interesting and good thread icon_smile_approve.gif

The technology is captivating but what each the pursues musical as the pinched in on these 2-4 minutes icon_smile_question.gif


Here, link is to the first as been played in
T.A.Edison himself


Many poplåtar lies between 2 and 4 minutes, t.ex is Norah Jones, kits ' t know why 3.05 my. Looks one on the whole CD ' n so meets 12 of the 14 on CD ' n Come Away With Me the requirement and the remaining lie just outside…

- the alternative each of course no music at all icon_smile_wink.gif

I believe that the could to last (patriotisk-) march music off John Philip Souza (1854-1932) that each a lot of popular on that time icon_smile_cool.gif



I have a part really old stone cookies icon_smile_wink.gif
When I come home from the job can I to search up some and skanna in skivettiketten.


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1889 - The Columbia Phonograph co was organized January 15 village Edward D. Easton with rights to market a treadle-powered graphophone; however, Easton would have more success selling music rather than business machines, especially cylinder's of the popular United State marine bands during John Philip Sousa.



icon_smile_big.gif Patriotismen feels familiarly!


So here, the record labels could see out on that time
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This exet is pressed only on uniting the side


Already on the stone cookie's time existed the some man can cold record care icon_smile.gif
Here, the a business is in Uppsala that has put in little about record care in the record cover.
The production is Hugo Alvens-Midsommarvaka expressed of hovkapellmästare wretched Järnefelt (1869-1958)
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Observe extra precise point 6 that explains little about the stylus's importance icon_smile_shock.gif


icon_smile.gif Thanks EAR
Amazingly delicate and interesting pictures icon_smile_tongue.gif

We see that all to be repeated and we divide ourselves not so a lot of as we perhaps easy wants to faith from that time's people icon_smile_cool.gif

We recur to the stone cookies but first must we return to 1880-talets latter half where we strikes on the German born Emile Berliner (1851 - 1929) that interested itself pursues whatever had with sounds to do. While Edison and Bell&Tainter fought with each other worked he on an entire other type of uppspelningsapparat. icon_smile_shy.gif

When it comes to grave small so can one choose businesses up and down (“mountains and valleys”), “vertical” productions or alternatively horizontal businesses, “laterala” productions.

The first flat records were done as an experiment of Charles Tainter 1881. The comprized a galvaniserad lateralt grave row record or as Tainter expressed the: “zig-zag” predicts. The had been done with a special lathe that graverade a wax masts that each galvaniserad with coppers. The record each 10 inch in diameter with a lot of broad predicts as each intended to be scanned with an air jet plane device that Chichester Bell precise had developed.
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Now became the not so without Bell&Tainter presented instead your grafofon 1886. When Emile Berliner saw this to be demonstrated began he immediate to develop its own device. The year subsequently took Emile Berliner patents on a device he called “Gramophone” as an used record that had become photo grave row with a lateralt graverat predicts.

In May 1888 demonstrated he an improved grammofon where he used a flat 7 inch's record with lateralt graverat predicts on uniting the side. This was twisted for hand with 30 varv per minute and had then a storage capacity on 2 minutes

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Berliners grammofon from 1888


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Their most important information is to document and to preserve old documents and the has then of course a side with information     about    how one best preserves musikkonserver. icon_smile.gif                        

The has a sajt that the calls American Memory where the describes American history and then also technology history. icon_smile_approve.gif

There, we find two persons that are central for our thread

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Clicks gladly on the pictures!



Who each now denne Emile Berliner?

Emil Berliner (1851-1929) was given birth to in Hannover Germany as fourth child in a child rich judisk family with 13 children of which 11 achieved adult age. The father each merchant and Emil got already wide 14 years' age the finished school and to help to with the maintenance of the big family. He had during a time different jobs and shown then samples on big technical aptitude then he bl.a designed a fabric stool.
At this time had Hannover been taken over off militant Preussare in Bismarks endeavor to unite Germany during Preussens management. Now, the climate became all more difficult for Jews and when Emil risked to become inkallad in wars so decided he to go to America. As 19 year old, he arrived 1870 to amerika where he worked as business assistant in Washington, D.C. Then he had an osläckbar new coffee unit and thirst after knowledge decided he itself in order to depart to New york and changed in same veva the first name to the more anglosaxiga Emile. He worked there at Dr. Constantine Fahlberg (as detected sackarin) while he studied at Cooper the institute (now Cooper union). 1876 returned he to Washington, D.C.

At this time each Bell's telephone on all lips and Emile Berliner decided itself in order to do own surveys. A problem with Bell's telephone each that shipped and receivers were located together which done that one each forced to quickly to alternate from mouth to ear and reverse. Moreover each man forced to speak a lot of high in order to become understood and longer distances not functioned. One knew already that motståndet between a metal point and carbon stratum depends on the pressure. This led in April 1877 to the invention of the carbon microphone of Emile Berliner. Smaller even a month after the that he a created operational microphone so solved he next big problems: the fast avtagandet of the electrical amperage with the distance. Through including an induction bobbin (transformer) to the transmitter passed on the telephone from lasting a kuriosa to a functional instrument. icon_smile_tongue.gif


… H ice was H lowering pcs time that any induction coil or crane shapes was ever used with undulatory, continuous currents. This usage became the prototype of all subsequent crane shapes' used village the million in power station's, electric light flat, wild duck today, in radio.

He got now employment at Bell Telephone Company (latter AT&T) that he sold the rights to. The was first now as the could mass producing telephones.

He became afterwards called to Boston (Massachusetts) and Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT). The each there as Emile Berliner 1887 invented grammofonen….


This the history lesson must we take copyright on… icon_smile_wink.gif icon_smile_tongue.gif


icon_smile.gif Thanks - I learn me also very very when I type down this icon_smile_approve.gif

- the is called learning village teaching and is actual an of the best ways to learn some icon_smile_wink.gif icon_smile_big.gif


icon_smile_approve.gif Clear interestingly, one learns entirely clear.
Thanks for the education!


The technology that Emile Berliner used itself of in order to create your records cold etching and the as has etched printed circuit board knows well to the technology. Here exists otherwise a description on Wikipedia icon_smile.gif

Emile Berliner used a with wax beskiktad zinc - or Kopparplatta. After having graverat the sound track in vaxskiktet so was intercepted the plaque in an acid bath that did not attack those splitters of the plaque that still had wax, the free lying the tracks became however etched so that when one took away all wax so had one a grave row metal record. The oldest still the preserved record is a zinc record produced the 25. 10. 1887 of Berliner alone.

Although Berliners systems were a lot of loud so each quality on the sound poorer than at the wax cylinder. The weakness lay in återspelningen. The device had a small crank as each associations with a strap as drives record playing clean. One each forced to amuse the device while one vevade with (hopefully) 70 varv per minute and hollow down the stylus in the track when one wanted to listen. Meagre some could hold the speed and some each forced to amuse the machine so that not vevandet willed few stylus to jump and to abort uppspelningen. icon_smile_blackeye.gif

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Berliner had however detected that he could used the zinc records in order to do pressure dice that he since could to use to producing records in almost limitless numbers. Like when it comes to pictures where a negative shows “reverse” colours and a barrel organ (=diabild) shows correct colours so speaks one here about a barrel organ and a negative there the end product and the watch record is positive while the pressure food rice are a negative icon_smile.gif

He began already in August 1888 with pressing negativen in soft materials. He examined various material as pressure mass and found that finally in July 1889 that hard vulkaniserat rubber had the best properties. icon_smile_approve.gif

He invested firstly on europa where he gave a demonstration of his grammofon Nov 26, 1889 in Berlin. The first pressing of 25,000 enkelsidade 5 inch's records were produced in Europe in the end on 1889, but


… H sounds quality was so dubious that a small rectagular paper label imprinted with the actual words was glued taking H reverse.

Berliner succeeded also few igång a production of grammofoner and records in German country during the sojourn 1889-90. When he returned to amerika 1891 so ordered he a spring mechanism to your grammofoner and created the American Gramophone co but the became a card livened company. icon_smile_blackeye.gif

In April 1893 based Berliner a new company the United States Gramophone co (Washington D.C.) and already to the autumn 1894 had the company sold 1000 grammofoner and 25000 records. Skivstorleken each 7 inch and the existed two grammofonmodeller with engine apart from the manual. icon_smile.gif

This is well a picture on the manual
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Grammofonen was improved permanentlely and in beginning on 1896 gave Berliner in commissions to Eldridge Johnson to develop an improved spring engine for the improved grammofonen that is portrayed in an article in Scientific American May 16, 1896. August 10 same year ordered Emile Berliner 200 such grammofoner of Johnson to a net pinch off $4 each.

His choices of Eldridge Johnson as underleverantör showed itself few långtgående consequences. Within only some years willed denne take over the production of grammofoner during your own trademark Victor Talking Machine co concurrent as Berliner alone willed not be involved more icon_smile_shock.gif

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1895 had Berliner had got your patent accepted that described a grammofon with a


. reproducing stylus shaped traveled engagement with [the grooves of] said record wild duck free taking to ask vibrated wild duck bill electricity suffered village the same.

which did that he could to apply for investorer and the based company Berliner Gramophone Company where he is minoritetsägare. He began moreover to give licences for sale of grammofoner and records to other companies including frank Seaman as based the New york Gramophone co for New york and N J.

The sales successes were absent however and frank Seaman, inheriting placed Berliner to give him exclusive right to distribute grammofoner in the whole USA except in Washington D.C and in October 1896 was based National Gramophone Company for this purpose. Improved marketing along with the the new spring engine and the introduction of shellack as record material leaded to a fast accelerated production and sale of grammofoner and records which continued to grow the nearest years when Johnson developed your own engine and players.

Crevices in the alliance arose however already in the centers on 1897 in connection with that William Barry Owen that had a manager post office on National Gramophone co got the rights to market to pursue grammofonen in england and where the based company the Gramophone co Ltd.

This each enough sweeping reason and the reason to the trouble where enough that Seaman each displeased with the cost on grammofonerna that he was certain about that he could to build cheaper alone. As the was now so served both Berliner and Johnson before the reached his sale organisation.

In the end on 1897 advertized National Gramophone co in “New york Sun” about the “Vocophone” and in February the year after existed the an ad in “New york Evening post office” about “Zonophone”.

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Despite Berliners protests were based the universal Talking Machine co in February 1898 skenbart in order to konvertera grammofoner to functioning with coins. icon_smile_wink.gif

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        The public gene rally ice warned against all
attempts to revive or sell the abandoned Gram-
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Circuit Court.   The Zon-o-phone ice the only
legitimate talking machine using disc records,
wild duck our machines wild duck records are protected village
the allied patents' of the four great talking machine

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The contract between frank Seamans National Gramophone Company and Berliner Company concerned 15 years and specified that National Gramophone Company willed have exclusive right to distribute and market to pursue Berliners products. When the profit for Berlinger increased so to wanted Seaman omförhandla the contract that applied until 1911 - but Berlinger refused.

At same time each competition between Berliner and Columbia hard and Columbia decided itself to examine unless Berliner could have done patent trespasses. Columbia's Edward Easton engaged your most imagination rich lawyer Phillip Mauro. That patent that low to the basis for Columbia Graphophone each Bell/Tainters patents from 1886. In the stood to read that a “needle moved village a groove” played up the production. The each an a lot of simplified description and actually incorrect since the stylus was not pursued of the track without concerned themselves with constant speed side was suffered in their structure. icon_smile.gif

Phillip Mauro looked on when a Berliner grammofon played of a production. He saw that the stylus was drawn with of the track precise as the does on a mother LP-skiva. Although Bell and Tainter had not designed your grafofon on that way so thought he that the patent's wording gave the correct to attack - and he chosen then to attack frank Seaman and National Gramophone Company. icon_smile_shock.gif

The each in this vevan as Seaman based universal Talking Machines co and began to produce Zon-o-phone and wanted to few Berliner to buy devices from him instead for from Eldridge Johnson. Berliner refused then he miss believed Seaman and had a good working condition with Johnson and moreover thought he not that Zon-o-phone had same kvalitét as their machine. Since Berliner did not want to buy Zon-o-phone so sold he the alone which of course Berliner took as a breach of contract. But according to same contract each Berliner forced to use itself of National Gramophone Company in order to sell your products. icon_smile_wink.gif

Frank Seaman had classified discussions with Columbia and Phillip Mauro and at the end of 1899 went the jointly out in the pressure


The National Gramophone Company will now sell Zon-o-phone Gramophones wild duck Disc Records.  The Zon-o-phone ice a replacement traveled the Berliner Gramophone wild duck Zon-o-phone records are a replacement traveled Berliner Gramophone Records.

Seaman recognized afterwards publicly that Berliner trespassed on patents as Columbia had. Columbia indicted Berliner for the trespass and helpless just right enough Seamans universal Talking Machines and their Zon-o-phone from the prosecution. This treason forced Berliner Company to complete the production since the not each allowable to sell those products that Emile Berliner once developed. The company each died already 1900. icon_smile_blackeye.gif


Now when Berliner Gramophone Company did not exist longer begun Seaman to use mastrar from Berliner in order to press records during Zon-o-phone the name. The company each however underfinansierat and was bought quickly up of Columbia.

Emile Berliner alone each pleased with letting the company to go in the grave. He had served a lot of money and drug itself back. This nonplussed to problems for all involved in Berliner Gramophone Company and then the special producer Eldridge Johnson. He had not been inactive when he worked for Berliner without he and his co-worker Alfred Clark had designed about almost all and not only uppspelningen without the had also improved the records. One has found physical productions that Johnson did in the end on 1890-talet and the is a lot of better than those records that Berliner did. icon_smile_shock.gif

When now Berliner disappeared so ended up of course Johnson in a difficult sits. Through Berliner had he become a rich man but the whole his fortune each invested in factories. He had also many employee and held precisely on with building out the factory - sows the the whole comes at an a lot of inappropriate time. The the whole came as a lightning from a clear sky. icon_smile_blackeye.gif

What as each förargelse for Berliner was a disaster for Johnson. The only he knew that he could to do each that alone to start a company Consolidated Talking Machine Company. He started the company along with a lawyer Leon Douglas and together succeeded the to scrape together $5,000.00. The first the did where to pay $2,500.00 in ads. The had a good publicity. The sa entirely simple that if you had a Berliner Gramophone so willed you send address and series numbers so willed the send a grammofonskiva as the assured willed let gooder than some the so far consulted. icon_smile_tongue.gif

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This each first stage against success and he begun produce records in big quantities. But when the began to grow light so dived frank Seaman up as asserted that Johnson was a cover for Berliner and that he only might sell through Seaman. Johnson and Consolidated Talking Machine Company won finally in court but might give after on a point and the concerned the use of the word” Gramophone”. In March's 1901 forbade the court the use of the word” Gram-O-Phone” and the became instead “Improved Record”. icon_smile_big.gif

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Since he had won over Seaman/Columbia so began he just then to type “Victor Record” on the record labels. October 3, 1901 changed carried out names to Victor Talking Machine Company icon_smile_wink.gif


As we see on the picture above had he already then the välkända the dog Nipper that we know from many record brands.
Who each Nipper?

This is the only well-known photograph of Nipper:
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Nipper was given birth to 1884 in Bristol/England. When his first house see land Barraud died 1887 comes Nipper to land's younger brother Francis in Liverpool. Francis Barraud each artist and evidently also interested of musical.
There, he detected a fonograf. The has often been described how confused he where when he consulted a shivered from the funnel, but not saw the person. We know that Nipper died in September 1895 and at that time existed the meagre förinspelade wax rolls without the each enough own productions that he played. The as has had dog knows how the confused dog becomes about one played in its vote on a tape recorder and plays up the band. This spectacle must have been so intensive that Francis Barraud three years after Nippers death decided itself in order to paint the.

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Barraud dates the painting to the 11.Februar 1899 and then has Berliners grammofon slått through and the was of course also positive since the picture comes to adorn the label on many stone cookies and since LP-skivor. icon_smile.gif

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The original picture of Francis Barraud (1898) had the title
Died looking at wild duck listening to a Phonograph
but became since omdöpt to His masts ' s Voice
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The dog and fonografen was facing up on an equal chest and the dog listened probably to its deceased house to be seen vote.

Barraud failed with selling the painting to a fonograf companies but 1899 bought the Gramophone Company the painting with pålagan that Barraud willed change about the painting so that a that imagined terrier that listens on a grammofon. The Gramophone Company used the picture the first time years 1900. After wishes from grammofonens inventor Emile Berliner so might the Victor Talking Machine Company the American rights to the picture.
Victor the used picture more than your partner in england and as from 1902 existed a simplified drawing of the dog and grammofonen on each record label. Tidningsreklam urged record consumer “Look travelled H died”.


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We thank for this lesson in human behaviour and morals.


We will now look on the heritage after Emile Berliner

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Berliner gramofonskiva from 1897 with George W. Johnson (1855? - 1914)

Berliner the based 1895 company Berliner Gramophone Company in Philadelphia. 1897 is based his English collaborative partner The Gramophone Company Ltd in London of Willam Barry Owen and in December 1898 bases he along with your brother Joseph Deutsche Grammophon Gesellschaft in Hannover. There, he built the first factory uniting comes for the production of records.

The Gramophone Company Ltd uses the 1898 trademark “Recording bait” on your record labels. 1900 registers the man trademark “His masts ' s Voice” and 1909 so turns up the dog record labels for HMV. Since Owen 1900 gets the production rights to Lambert typewriters so changes carried out names to The Gramophone&Typewriter Ltd - but already 1907 changes one back to The Gramophone Company Ltd. 1931 hits one itself together with Columbia Graphophone Company Ltd and forms Electric&Musical Industries Ltd (European Monetary Institute).
When Berliner Gramophone Company had to disappeared from amerika so collaborated the Gramophone Company Ltd instead with Victor Talking Machine company as man of course can say took over the heritage after Berliner.

When Berliner might not produce your products in amerika so moved he carried out years 1900 to Montreal, Canada. Montreal was chosen probably for the each good stamina conjunction to Philadelphia where the company lay earlier. Between 1904 and 1906 produces the Berliner Gramophone Company several different types of grammofoner at Montreal the factory - but the big businesses may rooms in USA there other kapitaliserade on Berliners inventions.

1924 was bought the Berliner Gramophone company up of Victor Talking Machine as 1929 went together with RCA and formed RCA Victor.


Here comes then a record from around 1912-13 (my according to father) that is Swedish though pressed in Germany in Hanover closer to certain and here is then the well-known dog with
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Observe that the stands Gramophone concert record on the record and not His masts' Voice





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